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By Lana
K. Wilson-Combs | OBSERVER
CORRESOPNDENT
BEVERLY HILLS, CALIF. - It has been 20
years since Spike Lee burst on the scene with his sexy and
controversial movie, “She’s Gotta Have It.”
The low-budget, independent film was shot in two weeks and
cost a paltry $175,000 to make. However, “She’s
Gotta Have It” grossed $8 million at the box office
and catapulted the fledgling filmmaker’s career.
Since then, Lee has left an indelible mark on American cinema.
He has made audiences laugh, cry and most importantly think
with such diverse movies as the Oscar nominated “Do
The Right Thing” (1989) followed by, “Mo' Better
Blues” (1990), “Jungle Fever” (1991), “Malcolm
X” (1992), “Get on the Bus” (1996), “4
Little Girls” (1997) and “He Got Game” (1998)
among many others.
Now, Lee has continued his provocative and socio-political
filmmaking with the new, riveting HBO documentary “When
the Levees Broke.” The film, which debuts on HBO August
21 and August 22 at 6 p.m. PST (encore presentation on August
29 at 5 p.m. PST), is an intimate portrait of New Orleans
and the devastating blow the city suffered when Hurricane
Katrina struck on Aug. 29, 2005.
The four-part series of “When the Levees Broke”
reveals startling information about the events leading up
to Hurricane Katrina. It also features interviews with many
of the survivors who lost friends and family, as well as noted
celebrities and politicians. “When the Levees Broke”
does not sugarcoat the issues. It gives an unapologetic view
that the American government shamelessly turned its back on
this city and region and particularly on African Americans.
During a recent interview at the Four Seasons Hotel, Lee sat
down with journalists to discuss what inspired the noted director/producer
to make “When the Levees Broke,” which coincides
with the one year anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. Lee, dressed
in a navy sports coat with an emblem of his beloved New York
Yankees baseball team on the chest pocket, blue and white
shirt and slacks, spoke with candor and even humor about the
documentary.
QUESTION: What was your relationship to
New Orleans before making this documentary?
SPIKE LEE: Well, I have a lot of friends
there. Terrence Blanchard, Branford and Wynton Marsalis and
Wendell Pierce.
Q: At what point did you decide that you
wanted to make a documentary and put your team together?
SL: Right away. When I was looking at what
everyone else was watching on television.
Q: Were you using your own funds or did
you call people to back you up?
SL: No, it was HBO. I called HBO and they
said 'OK.'
Q: Was it difficult for you to make “When
the Levees Broke” knowing that there hasn’t been
any real closure to the Hurricane Katrina situation even after
one year?
SL: Yes, that was difficult because the
story changed every day. The guy who runs the Corps of Engineers
retired or quit. Everyday something was happening. So we had
to make adjustments.
Q: How do you identify the people that you
want to be in the documentary?
SL: Well, I have a great researcher. Her
name is Judy Aley. She made two trips to New Orleans before
we got there. She just walked around and met people. So she
would shoot me back e-mails with their story. And I would
make the determination as to whether we would interview them
or not.
Q: Were there many people that were not
chosen?
SL: Oh yeah. You can’t interview everybody.
And some people don’t want to be interviewed.
Q: How were you affected by your footage?
SL: It affects me. And that’s why
we had to be responsible and do this right. When you’re
a director, you have many different choices. When we did the
other HBO documentary “4 Little Girls,” we had
a dilemma because once again my researcher, Judy Aley found
the postmortem photographs of “4 Little Girls.”
And so when I got them, that decision of should we include
these or not kept weighing on me. And I prayed on it. And
I made the decision that we had to show what these hundred
sticks of dynamite did to these four little black girls. And
I knew I was going to show bodies, but it was a matter of
how much. I wanted to show as much as I felt the audience
could take. And in a way I felt that it was paying respect
to these bodies. Who knows whether they received a proper
burial or that their remains were united with their families?
So in a way that’s how we approached that. But even
for me the hardest stuff that I knew had to go in “When
the Levees Broke” were like the interviews with Kim
Polk. For me that’s much harder. I’m interviewing
her and she’s holding a picture of her 5-year-old daughter.
She was gracious enough to let us bring a camera to the funeral.
But for me the most poignant shot in the entire four hours
is the final shot of episode three. She completely breaks
down. Then her little boy runs into the frame completely unaware
— just a little kid — that his little sister is
dead. And then we fade to black. That happened. We were just
there. It was just one of those magical moments that we were
able to capture.
Q: There was a lot of footage in your documentary
that we didn’t get to see on the news. How did you go
about finding that footage?
SL: Once again, Judy Aley, my researcher.
Q: Did she put a call out or did she just
go to every station?
SL: That’s her job. That’s her
profession. She got me everything that we knew. She found
some amazing stuff.
Q: You obviously knew what to ask for. Were
you surprised by what she dug up?
SL: There were a lot surprises. But I told
her to get everything. I was surprised with the teleconference
with Max Mayfield and President Bush. Bush was told before
that the levees might top. And later on he contradicts himself
by saying to news reporter Diane Sawyer that no one knew that
this would happen. There’s a lot of stuff.
Q: What lesson(s) did you come away with
after making this documentary?
SL: It’s four hours of stuff that’s
very complex. I can’t just give you one thing. It didn’t
start out at four hours. We initially approached HBO to do
two hours. But halfway in we needed more time. Actually, more
time and money. (He laughs). And they gave it to us. But one
of the things I came away with and the biggest surprise was
how much humor I saw. You would not think going in that this
would be funny. And it is not a funny film. But I think that
we captured the characters. I mean they are a special breed
of people, I mean black or white in New Orleans. That’s
something that is a surprise to me. Funny thing. When “Inside
Man” was coming out I did an interview for this lady
at the New York Observer. In the article I’m talking
about that we were in the process of shooting this film. And
I said, I want you to help me. Anybody who knows the guy who
told Dick Cheney to go f---himself please get in contact with
the writer. Anybody who knows the lady who got in Condoleezza
Rice’
s face let me know because I want an interview. So somehow
we found out who it was and we interviewed him. But to this
day, we can’t seem to locate the white lady who got
in Condoleezza Rice’s face at the Ferragamo shoe store.
So either she’s camera shy or she’s dead.
Q: How did you decide--since there was so
much information--to break it down in four parts?
SL: It was easy. I just said that we needed
some structure so we said, let’s divide it into four
halves.
Q: There is so much in the documentary that
we didn’t get on the news and there are people who don’t
have HBO. Was there any thought of making this theatrical
before going to four hours?
SL: No. They were not going to do that.
We are going to be at some film festivals with it. We’re
going to be at the Venice Film Festival and the Toronto Film
Festival. I think a lot of other TV like the BBC; people like
that may buy it. And it might be small limited release. I
hope for that.
Q: There were a lot of conspiracy theories
with the explosions and all. Even the lieutenant governor
dismissed it. A lot of black people in those areas had their
theories about what happened. Are you concerned that people
will dismiss this as just black people talking?
SL: No I’m not concerned about it.
Q: People were saying that actor Sean Penn
was going out for exposure when Hurricane Katrina happened.
Why did he come down there?
SL: I don’t think I have to justify
that. He’s a great humanitarian. I mean he went down
there with a shotgun. He was saving lives. Sean is genuine.
To me personally, I felt that it would be like I didn’t
want to question why he was there so that’s why I didn’t
include that and that’s why I didn’t ask him that.
Q: Is the Mackie person in the film, actor
Anthony Mackie’s brother?
SL: Yes, they are brothers.
Q: Do you think parents should be involved
in watching “When the Levees Broke” with their
kids?
SL: I don’t think a 10-year-old can
see this, but a teenager could see this.
Q: This is a film that you’re likely
going to hear about from a lot of people on both sides especially
the right wing. There are a lot of crazy people out there.
Do you ever get afraid when you make documentaries or films
like this?
SL: No not me, but Ray Nagin (mayor of New
Orleans) talks about being ejected and Kanye West talks about
having his last drink.
Q: How do you feel when you expose situations
like these?
SL: Well, that’s my job.
Lana K. Wilson-Combs is a syndicated music and entertainment
writer who lives in Sacramento. Contact her at Lanawriter@worldnet.att.net.
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